I got back from travel first bit of the week and took out the P211 - I took them to my indoor gun club bright and early this AM and only had enough time to to put about 150 or so rounds through the P211. Here's what I discovered about the gun so far.
The grip is really good. There is a texturized aluminum plate up under the safety that bites into your support hand at the turning moment. It's probably the best - in this area - of any 2011 grip I've tried that's not an MJD grip. Accuracy is very good - that picture is a group shot with some Sig Elite V Crown 124s (they sent them with the gun) - the fliers were me not having good aim. It's capable of all X ring.
The comp works very well. I really want to compare it to an XC. I shot Buffalo Creek 115s and the Sig 124 VCrowns in doubles - my group was smaller with the doubles on the Crowns than the 115 range loads. There was more hit in the hand but the gun feels more stable with spicier ammo - if you can hold on to it - which you can - because see above.
It does not fit 2011 holsters - which is pants on head stupid. It does - kind of - fit P320 holsters - since it takes P320 mags it kind of makes sense.
The slide release isn't reachable with strong hand thumb - BUT - it is available with your trigger finger since the ambi slide release.
I haven't taken the gun apart yet to look at it on the inside yet - but I'm eager to.
It's easy to overdrive the gun - my typical 2011 grip was pushing follow ups low - so I had to adapt to how the gun returns. It's really nice shooting. I look forward to comparing it to the XC.
The magwell -despite being a "tactical" width - feels absolutely cavernous when you slam mags. The 23 round mag does get 23 with a lock back follower and seats easily with the slide forward. I'll test other mags.
It doesn't throw brass very far with range loads - maybe 4' to the right. I would expect that if you go too light on powder charge you'll get into ejection issues. There's an extra spring provided - I don't know if it's extra power or low power - I'll get that resolved if I actually open the manual (which I haven't done).
The trigger is superior to the Staccato HD trigger which is also a series 80. The texture on the hammer for manual cocking of the hammer is a bit weak - but that's forgivable.
Balance on the gun is good - very centrally balanced.
Fitment wise - it's about like a Kimber 2k11. The forward serrations and slide profile make slide manipulations super easy. It's incredibly ergonomic in that regard. It doesn't look as "dumb" as it does in the pictures as it does in person.
P211 (series 80 2011 style gun with quick attach 3D printed compensator
Does the 3D printed comp work better than an XC? Bul Tac Pro?
Different projectile weights - which work best on the comp
How does it shoot compared to a 4" 2011 or a 5" gun?
Which base pads/mags work with the gun?
changing grips - what does that look like.
Accuracy at different grain weights
Muzzle velocity - where's that landing.
P226X - admittedly - this is a niche gun. For whatever reason - in the DASA craze the P226 got left behind - even the Beretta 92 got more love than this gun and I don't understand it. The Beretta 92 is amazing, the P226 is equally amazing. CZs are kind of a different thing. entirely. I personally - really like the P226. As I've lived with the CZ Shadow 2 Carry - I'm realizing that I probably don't like it as much as I did the P229 I was using for DASA.
So the claim to fame - and why this is important as a gun - on a platform not many dudes are going to care about - is that the frames are now machined to accept EITHER a DASA or a SAO action and be convertible - supposedly - "at home" "by a qualified gunsmith" - the one they sent me was an SAO.
Obviously how's it shoot compared to the "old" 226 Legion and the XFive
what's it look like behind the grips relative to the old 226 and the XFive
do the XFive grips truly fit?
So there's it happening - it was a good stage up until that point . You can actually see the issue starting as the gun hangs out of batter entering the position which forced me to rack a round out to get it back into battery - which I handled well. This sequence was paper, mini popper, mini popper activator, distant open target, bobber (didn't engage), partial (didn't engage) - so I ate 4 mikes and 2 procedurals right there. And it still was a 3.44 hit factor.
The good news so now the guns working I look forward to two days of mayhem!
Below - you can see a shock buff - it's a washer, basically that threads onto the guide rod. The theory of what a shock buff does is it alleviates some of the impact when the slide opens all the way - they're usually made out of Delrin or rubber or whatever but this one is aluminum and was supposed to be maintenance free. It kind of compresses the spring a bit more since you don't trim the spring so it makes lighter springs work more like a higher poundage ...
I got this pretty epic slow motion in the range of the Deagle going off. that gun is silly fun to shoot. The fireball is massive - I started to chrono the ammo I have for it - it's not as impressive as the fireball would suggest. It's about 1200 FPS with a 300 grain projectile. For comparison - the 6" 10mm with a 180 grain Blazer Brass was doing 180 grains at 1200 FPS.
The 10mm 1911 is pretty tame to shoot - not wildly different form a 45.
I was going to do a video on 10mm ammo and then shoot water jugs and slow motion of them popping - but then the sky opened up on me.
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Curious what you guys think - if this is starting to bark up the tree of "watchable"
So this is a NDA gun launch. I've had it for a while now - probably better part of two months - so I have shot it and carried it a bit. This style of gun is pretty decent for someone who wants a P365/365XL sized gun but just doesn't like strikers. I carried the old CDS9 I got last summer quite a bit as my go to "I want to bring a gun but I don't want to deal with carrying a gun any more than I have to" since last year. It's a fine carry gun - the biggest gripe was holster selection was "cheeks" (as the kids say) up until a few months ago when Muddy River Tactical picked it up. The Kim Pro finish probably wears off high points on the gun a bit quicker than even a cerakote - but it looks nice in the case. If you haven't had a Stainless gun - the slide will mark if you hit it on other stuff - which is basically entirely the process of me putting it into my carry safe (it has a rack, I sometimes hit it on the other guns next to it) But the biggest difference is this de-featured gun - it ...
So Sig's new 320 magazine 2011 style pistol is now announced. Full ambi controls - series 80 trigger mechanism that got refined similar to the HD Staccatos. Wild that the announcement is like a week after Staccato rolled out the HD 4.6. MSRP is $2399. Obviously - Sig has a black eye they are wading through and this is a gun folks have been asking about forever. From a positioning perspective- they're in the same neighborhood as the Kimber and Bul Armory guns. For the money - you're at a bare bones Staccato HD P4 doorstep. Based on features - I think it's competitive for the money on paper. They'll probably get loads of dropped gun comments on the video. What I do know about the gun through conversations with a few folks off the record
It's been in engineering for literal years - I first heard about it over 2 years ago that it was coming. When they started the project they wanted a really high mean rounds between stoppages - and that took effort to get at - the claim they say for this one is ...
